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For the first time ever, Lorraine Lewis will be bringing Femme Fatale to Belfast when the Faster Pussycat tour arrives in the city in September. Femme Fatale will be supporting along with Blacklist Union.
Back when MTV played music, Lorraine and Femme Fatale made regular appearances with the tracks “Waiting For the Big One” and “Falling In And Out of Love”. Unfortunately, their self-titled debut album in 1988 was their only release before the band split in 1990.
Friday NI Rocks Show No804 (22nd May) – Uploaded 23rd May 2026
SHAKRA - Just Live Loud!
FEMME FATALE - Living Like There’s No Tomorrow
Interview with LORRAINE LEWIS Part 1 (13min)
BLACKLIST UNION & LORRAINE LEWIS – Jackson
Interview with LORRAINE LEWIS Part 2 (10min)
FEMME FATALE – Bad Love (ft Bumblefoot)
Interview with LORRAINE LEWIS Part 3 (9min)
FEMME FATALE - If
VIXEN – Red
NIGHT RANGER - Don’t tell Me That You Love Me
TESLA - Spread Your Wings
CLUTCH – Evil
Promo feature for new DAN BYRNE album Part 1
DAN BYRNE – Pulling Me Under
Promo feature for new DAN BYRNE album Part 2
HEART – Barracuda
STATUS QUO - Caroline
AC/DC - Touch Too Much
KISS - Love Gun
Promo feature for new album by THE KARMA EFFECT Part 1
THE KARMA EFFECT – Long Gone
Promo feature for new album by THE KARMA EFFECT Part 2
ARMORED SAINT - Every Man – Any Man
SPREAD EAGLE - Ant Farm
BLACK SABBATH - The Mob Rules
IRON MAIDEN - Where Eagles Dare
NI ROCKS – Hi Lorraine, thanks for taking some time to chat to us. There are quite a few things I wanted to talk about, including your new single which we’ll come to shortly. But first of all, let’s talk about the upcoming tour of Europe in September. You’re touring with Faster Pussycat and Blacklist Union. How did you get involved in that and what can you tell us about the tour?
LORRAINE - How great is that? Well, first of all, let me say hi, Nigel. It's great to see you. I know you are in Belfast and yes, Femme Fatale, Blacklist Union and Faster Pussycat; we will all be in Belfast in September. I am over the moon excited about this tour. You know, Taime and I go way back to the Sunset Strip days. I met Taime when he used to work at a place called Retail Slut on Melrose Avenue. And I was really intrigued with that place because I had just moved from Albuquerque, New Mexico. And I was on Melrose Avenue walking around, checking out all the clothes and all of that stuff. And Retail Slut was known for being super edgy, kind of punk rock, if you will. And they had like a baby doll, several baby dolls in the window with nails through them with like paint as blood. I was really like, oh my God, what is this crazy place? And I went inside and lo and behold, there was Taime behind the counter. He used to work there and he looked really cool and edgy and kind of vampire-y, had black nail polish that was chipped, day-old eyeliner on. And I just thought he was the coolest looking cat that I had seen in LA. So, we got to chatting. I told him I had moved from Albuquerque and I was here to get a record deal. And we became fast friends and I would go visit him whenever I could at Retail Slot. So, we go way back and that's just a really cool honor for me to be touring with him. And basically how the tour came about is that I know Faster Pussycat was going to go out on tour. Blacklist Union led by Tony West, an amazing singer. Him and Taime are friends. And when the idea was sprouted to possibly go on tour with Faster Pussycat, they made it happen. Blacklist Union is direct support and I am the opener and I am happy and grateful to be opening up the show with the boys. I will say you boys better be ready because I don't come to play. I'm like in it to win it and go for it and be the femme fatale that I am. So yeah, I'm going to put on a great show to start off the night. So I'm very excited about this.
NI ROCKS – We’re looking forward to it. The tour includes a Belfast date, which is on 13th September and we’re all looking forward to. Will this be your first time in Belfast?
LORRAINE - It will be my first time in Belfast. I mean, I've done a lot of traveling, a lot of touring, etc., but never Belfast. So this will be my first time. What do you guys drink out there? Is there a certain kind of beer that I have to drink?
NI ROCKS - The traditional one is obviously Irish Guinness, but we've a lot of whiskey drinkers too, so we like our whiskey here.
LORRAINE - Okay. I like my whiskey too, so we'll have to throw one back when I get out there.
NI ROCKS – Will fans get a chance to chat with you after you’ve done your performance or maybe get stuff signed?
LORRAINE - Oh yeah, of course. Anybody can show up with vinyls or the CD or the cassette tape, by the way. I know that a lot of people still have those. And I will definitely be out and about and ready to sign. I know that I'll be at the merch table after the show. There's going to be some special merch from Femme Fatale, 8 by 10s. And then obviously whenever you make a purchase, you get a chance to take a selfie with me on your own device. I'm all about that. I'm all about the friends and fans of the band. This is a long time coming. And we're talking decades that I've been doing music and never been to Belfast. I would hope that people would be like, oh, dang, I remember her from the MTV days and come on out and support. It's going to be a hell of a show. It's going to be a hell of a night. I've been at the Blacklist Union rehearsals. Great band, great music. I mean, they're the real deal. And of course, Faster Pussycat is the crown cherry on top. You know, Taime and the boys always put on a great show. Taime is an amazing front person, great singer. And you can't deny those songs that have lasted for decades, you know, House of Pain, Babylon. I mean, so many great songs. So I'm excited. I'm going to be side stage, you know, checking it out during the shows and people will definitely get a chance to say hello to me. and hug and high five and selfies and all that stuff.
NI ROCKS – We’re looking forward to that. The recent Femme Fatale video for “Bad Love” featured Sean McNabb, Steve Brown and Nick Mason but I’m not sure if they are part of the upcoming tour line-up. Can you tell us who is going to be in your band when you come?
LORRAINE - Yeah, well, I will tell you that I've been honored and grateful that Steve Brown, who's been my producer for this release on Cleopatra Records…we've worked really hard. We have one more song to deliver to the label. I'm hoping that the album is going to be released in August, right before the tour, so that people will have a chance to get the vinyl and CDs, et cetera, as well as streaming. But all of those boys, even Bumblefoot who played on “Bad Love”, I would love to have those boys be my touring band, but I don't know if you realize, Sean McNabb is now on tour with David Lee Roth. And everybody's got something going on. Rounding up rock stars for my band, although challenging, I am really luck, I will have Nick Mason on drums, who actually was in the video for “Bad Love”. And I have a guitar player in the UK that is going to be my guitar slinger. I'm actually going to meet him for the first time this weekend. His name is Mike Wroe. Is that how I say his last name? W-R-O-E. Great guitar player; really seems to get the whole 80s vibe, a great player. And one of the things that I noticed about him is that not only does he seem to love 80s rock and be a great player, he looks like a young Keith Richards to me. I think that that's really cool. He came to me from Rex, who was in the Eagles of Death Metal camp. When we reached out to him our assistant Jen said, you know, Lorraine needs a guitar player for this UK tour and he suggested Mike and it just seems like a slam dunk. And I'm not ready to announce the bass player yet. But yeah, things are really great. And I'm excited. And we're going to have some rehearsal time. I've already sent them four songs that are definitely going to be in the set, which is “Bad Love”, “Living Like There's No Tomorrow”, “Waiting for the Big One”, and “Falling In and Out of Love”, of course. And then I'm kind of reaching out to the fans to find out what other Femme Fatale songs they want to hear. I've got a short set. I would imagine I'm gonna be on stage for 30 minutes, maybe 35 if I'm lucky. So, we're talking 7, 8 songs. I mean, I'd love to add “Rebel,” but then I also have a new ballad that's coming out this summer called “Home is Where the Heart Lives”, which is a killer song. I just recorded a song that was written by me and Jon Carlo (?) and David Julian. And that is a great song. I haven't even decided on the title yet. It's either going to be “Don't Call Me Your Angel” or “When the Devil's Not a Stranger”. I haven't locked that in yet, but it's killer, banger of a song. So yeah, the set's going to be challenging to put together because I want people, I think “My Baby's Gun” is going to make the set because that's from the first record and it's a great opener and just kind of sets the pace that shows you we are here to mother-funckin rock. So, I'm going to go take it to the fans to help me put the set together.
NI ROCKS – Yeah, I saw “Fortune & Fame” mentioned too on one of your posts.
LORRAINE - I love “Fortune & Fame”, but then you've also got “Back in Your Arms Again”, which is gonna be a single. I mean, yeah, narrowing it down to 30 minutes, knowing that I have all of these great other songs that are just being released is gonna really be challenging. And then I have done some collaborating with Tony West from Blacklist Union. We're releasing, actually a week from tonight, 6 pm., the world premiere of “Jackson”, which was recorded by June Carter and Johnny Cash. We recorded it with Chris Johnson, who is considered the sixth member of Blacklist Union, worked with Evanescence, so many other bands. And he was our producer for that song. We have a video that's dropping that is the coolest. And this is not recorded like June and Johnny did it. I mean, we brought the punk rock. We bought a Ramones vibe to it. It is punk rock to the max. I think people are really going to dig the video and the song for sure.
NI ROCKS – That was actually going to be my next question, but you've answered most of it. Why did you pick “Jackson” as a song to play?
LORRAINE - We chose it because I was with Tony and we met with a friend named Heidi. We were hanging out. We had just done the song, “Stop Dragging My Heart Around”. And we like working together. We plan to release that as well. But she just kind of said, you guys should do that song, “Jackson”. And we kind of looked at each other and we were like, let's check it out. And so we did. And then obviously we wanted to do it, but Tony's idea was to make it more Ramones style. So it's in your face. You know, it's not the tempo that June and Johnny did it. It's really aggressive and cool. So yeah, that's really how that all came about. And we really dig working together. You know, he's got a great voice and I, I haven't known Tony for a really long time. We met in October at a funeral, by the way, for Glen La Ferman, who is a mutual friend, great rock and roll photographer. And that's how we met. And the interesting thing about going on tour, well, one of the many interesting things about going on tour with Faster Pussycat and Blacklist Union is that Taime actually introduced Tony and I at the funeral that day, which just seems so interesting and bizarre that now we're all going on tour together is like magic. You can't write this stuff. When the universe decides what they want to do, what kind of tour that they want to see, that's what happens. So it's really interesting. So I've done a deep dive with Blacklist Union. And if you don't know the music, you really should check it out. Hooks for days in those choruses. A great singer, great band. And again, produced by Chris Johnson, you can't go wrong with those tracks. So it's going to be a hell of a night, you know, kind of like I feel that Blacklist Union is kind of the new Hollywood, even though, you know, Sunset Strip, edgy, dirty rock and roll, even though Tony's. band and they've released six albums are on their seventh right now. But then you, you know, you've got like somewhat the new breed of Hollywood dirt, rock and roll. And then you've got the, the iconic Faster Pussycat who is all sweat and, and the streets of Hollywood. It's a great lineup. I think it's going to be really cool. I think it's going to be really amazing and magical. Look, we've got 19 dates in 26 days. It's going to be back-to-back to back on a lot of them. We're ready. We're here for it. I will say that the tour wraps in Italy on my birthday, September 26. I can't think of a better way to celebrate my birthday. Back in the day when I got the call about getting on tour with Cheap Trick, that was actually on my birthday that I got that announcement from HK Management. And he was like, I've got a birthday present for you. How do you feel about going on tour with Cheap Trick? I was like, hell yeah. So yeah, it's pretty amazing. And after all of these years and decades, really, to be on tour like this is, that's magic. That's all you can say. But you know, I am the girl that will never go away. Rock and roll is who I am. I'm never leaving until they carry me out. And so, yeah, I'm honored and grateful for sure to still be doing what I do, which is I love rock and roll.
NI ROCKS – We’ll play that now.
NI ROCKS – You mentioned earlier on about doing a cover of “Stop Draggin My Heart Around” (the Stevie Nicks / Tom Petty classic). Is that going to be released at some point?
LORRAINE - Yes, the plan is to release that on Cleopatra Records. I've talked with Brian over at the label, so there is a plan to release that. And then, you know, I've got some more surprises as well. I've got another single coming out. I actually am waiting for the inserts to come to start autographing them. That is with another iconic male singer, a release that is going to be coming out very soon with a video. I can't really say more than that because, I mean, the song is done. It's ready to drop. The singles have been pressed. They're ready to be released. The only thing that we're not waiting on, but that is being scheduled, is the video where I'll be in the studio and collaborating with this iconic male singer. So that's coming as well. I mean, you can't write this stuff. I'm really one lucky b. I really am one lucky b to be able to be doing what I love to do. And having gone full circle, being on tour with the V Band, if you will, with the girls, the V Band for six years, almost six years. And now to be full circle and being back to Femme Fatale is really, it's just the cat's meow.
NI ROCKS – I was gonna ask you about the album release with Cleopatra, but you've said hopefully August then that you think the album's gonna come out?
LORRAINE - That's what Brian and I have talked about. He said it's really just a matter of getting all the material in. I've got this new song that I just talked about, “Don't Call Me Your Angel”, that I've got to do another lead vocal on. Although Steve Brown was saying, I love this vocal on it, but I'm going to go in. I just want to give it a little bit more oomph because that's how I am. The demo was just recorded here at the place in the living room. So I'm going to go into a studio. I'm actually going to reach out to Gilby Clarke. I think I want to go into his studio and lay down a vocal. And then we deliver that. And then we have one more song that actually Carmine Appice is playing drums on. So that will be our last single to deliver to the label and then we can release. So it's only May. I know that I can get the other two delivered in the next month or two months. So I would imagine we'll release August in time for the September tour. That's the plan.
NI ROCKS - You're going to do the vinyl release as well as the CD and digital.
LORRAINE - Yes, digital, streaming, obviously a CD and vinyl. And then this iconic vinyl that's going to be coming out. There's only 75 copies of it. The A side is the song. And then actually, I can say what the song is, I just can't tell you who the artist is. Originally, I had recorded this song with Lou Graham from Foreigner, but then he decided to do his own release and not include that. So, like I say, I'm the girl that never goes away. We figured it out. And another iconic male singer has sung on it, but it is the song “Heroes” by David Bowie. And it kicks ass. Joel Hoekstra played guitar, Sean McNabb on bass, Jason Sutter on drums. It was recorded at Gilby’s Studio. And also Scott Gilman helped produce and Steve Brown produced. So yeah, a lot of heavy hitters on this song. I think people are gonna freak out when they hear it. There's never been that song recorded by a male and female voice. So that opening line, you know, ‘I will be king’, and I get to say, ‘I will be queen’, or however that goes. Yeah, I'm excited for people to hear this one.
NI ROCKS – When we last did an interview, it was 12 years ago, 2014, at that point, we talked about the second Femme Fatale record, and you said then you were hoping that it would be released shortly, and it was, but it was actually named “One More for the Road” (released by FnA in 2016). It must have been nice to get that album back on release again.
LORRAINE - I was really happy about that. The thing with that album, it was released on FnA Records., and I want to say it was 2024, unless you know differently (note – this was the “Live & Demos” release). But those were really demos for the second record that never came to be. So it's not a studio album. It's the raw demos. And then added to that, we added some live show audio from the Femme Fatale tour with Cheap Trick. And I think that that's really a treat for people. There are no more CDs left, but there is vinyl still left on FnA. And I might take some of those out with me on the tour. We'll see.
NI ROCKS – That'd be good. One of the demos on there was a cover of AC/DC’s “It’s A Long Way to the Top (If You Wanna Rock n Roll)”. What was the story behind that?
LORRAINE - Me and the boys were always really big AC/DC fans, so we really wanted to release that song. And it was really fun to do. I remember we were in the studio with Jim Faraci, who famous for the first Poison album, and so many other things from back in the day. But we were partying it up in the studio and we recorded that and it just felt really great to have a girl vocal on that song. And it is a long way to the top if you want to rock'n'roll. But here we are, decades later. And like I say, I'm not going away. I'm never stopping. I mean, I do a lot of other things with the podcast, OnlyFans and all of the things that I do. I still work in television as a casting producer, but rock and roll and music is who I am. It's a big part of me. And you can't like chop off your arm. (Laughs) And you just can't let go of these things. So yeah, unbelievable really to think that here we are so many years later and I'm going out on tour, mom and dad! And my mom and dad have since left the planet, but I know that they're really proud of me. And I am just that person that holds on tight and never lets go when I love something. And I've always wanted to rock and roll and be on tour. So here we go, buckle up, buttercup (Laughs)
NI ROCKS – Looking forward to it. You've mentioned some of the singles you've released over the last few months, Living Like There's No Tomorrow, then Love Will Keep It Together, which was George Lynch, and the last one, Bad Love, which was Bumblefoot, etc. I was gonna play Bad Love. Can you tell us a bit more about that song and where it came from?
LORRAINE - Yeah, Steve Brown sent the music over and asked me if I liked it and if I wanted to work on a vocal for it. And I mean, I loved it immediately. I thought it was heavy. It was gritty. I thought it was cool. The lyric came really fast for me. One of the things I love about that song is the chorus. “Your red flag is on fire. Don't pull me into the flame”. We've all been there where we see red flags, at least I have red flags. We still jump into the relationship. And so nowadays, it's like I'm wiser but still those red flags have to be on fire for me to like take notice because I'm a Libra and like I believe in giving people chances but I've gotten better at spotting those red flags and now walking away from them. But I think that it's really relatable in that fact that you know I know so many girls and guys that get into really crazy relationships and then later they say I did see the red flag. And I was thinking if it was on fire, would you still have walked through it? I don't know. And then to do the video, I knew that I had to have fire in the video. And that was directed by Vicente (Cordero). I came up with the storyline of that. We wanted to do a live performance, but I had to have the fire, the fire girls in the video. And then I ended up learning how to do the fire dancing with one of them. I had a session with her. And you can actually see some of that footage on my YouTube channel, which is Lorraine Lewis Rocks and also on OFTV, which is an OnlyFans TV network station that I have, which is a safe for work. You won't see any boobage or anything like that. It's just to give you an idea of the behind the scenes of my life is what that station is all about. So you can check those out there. But yeah, there's footage of me with the fire and it's really, I hate the word empowering because it's really overused, but it felt really cool and fun and sexy to have this pro fire dancer teach me the ropes. And I can't wait to learn a little bit more. I mean, I got to really do all the cool flame stuff. And she was like, they put out the fire in their mouths, I mean I didn't do that, but I'm gonna do that next time for sure. But she taught me how to like, they call it grazing, I think, where you take the fire. And I mean, I was all about it. I loved it. felt just cool to do that. Rock and roll! (laughs)
NI ROCKS – You mentioned red flags earlier in the conversation, which brings me on to the next question. You're obviously very busy doing TV productions, etc. One of your latest ventures is Dangerously Honest, and you talked about red flags in one of those podcasts recently. It's all on iHeartRadio, but it's also on Spotify and other places. I take it really enjoy doing that kind of stuff.
LORRAINE - I love it. Well, as you can tell, I'm quite a talker. I'm not shy at all. And I'm an open book. So for me, “Dangerously Honest”, I got contacted by Jayla Carter and Scott Gutierrez. And they presented the idea to me. They said that they already had a connection with iHeart and that I could easily fit into the programming. And so I said, sure. So we've done 8 episodes so far. I flew to Houston in April to do the videos for “Jackson” and “Home is Where the Heart Lives”. So we got away from it a little bit. But now that we've done the 8 episodes, we can pick it up whenever we want to. I will say that the next footage that's coming out is - I was on Hollywood Boulevard interviewing people on Hollywood Boulevard, which is really fun. I got to meet a snake, like the Britney Spears video, “I'm a Slave for You”. So I had this snake around my neck and that was really fun and talking to people. And then I ran into Cassidy Paris, who's been on tour. That was random, that wasn't planned. I mean, that's the beauty of life and just things happen. I heard my name and I was like, what? And there she was. She was getting ready to go on the Monsters of Rock cruise. I think she's a great artist and it was really great to see her. We've only known each other from Instagram. So that was cool. And then also another thing that's going to be dropping on “Dangerously Honest” with me, Lorraine Lewis, is an interview I did with Josie Scott, the original singer from Saliva, who is an amazing singer, amazing performer, who now has a new band coming out called Terminal. Is that what the name of the band is? Gosh, I don't want to get it wrong. It's with some of the boys from Tesla. But I can't wait for that stuff to come out with Josie on vocals and the Tesla guys, their songwriting, their guitar playing, background vocals and Chris Holmes on lead guitar, it's going to be sick and amazing. So anyway, so I have an interview to be edited that's going to come out with Josie Scott as well, which I will say he did mention that he did have a poster of me on his wall back in the day. (Laughs) So that's always fun to find out. I will be honest about that. Don't be shy, you guys, when you want to talk to me about that stuff. I think it's beautiful to be full circle and know that people dig what I do then and dig what I do now.
NI ROCKS – You mentioned the band earlier, which I’ll not name either, which you were part of for a few years. You released a single with them called “Red”, which I thought was excellent. What can you tell us about that track?
LORRAINE - Yeah, that track was originally written by Fred Coury from Cinderella. and a female, I'm sorry, I don't remember her name, but he presented it to the band. We were looking to do a record together and he presented it to us and Roxy really loved it. You know, she was the leader of the band, not me. It was her band. So she loved it. And we all went in and did our parts. And I recorded that song vocally with Fred Coury at his studio, honoured and grateful to have worked with him. Another feather in my cap of amazing things that I've been able to do in my life; working with Lou Gramm, Fred Coury, this iconic new singer, Tony West. I mean, I'm really lucky. Also, Leather Leone; we actually rerecorded “Waiting for the Big One” together, and that's going to be released as well on this record. We're just waiting to release that as well. We redid the song. So yeah, “Red” was a great song, great video. The video was directed by Vicente. That's how I met him. And I thought that me and the girls did a hell of a job on the track and a hell of a job in the video. And it's on YouTube, you can see it. I mean, I bring my A game, which is me rocking and rolling in front of the camera. I'm not shy, like I said before. I love performing. I am a musician. I am a guitar player, even though I have decided to grow my nails out. But I am a great awesome, solid rhythm player actually, which I think would surprise people. But I'm an entertainer and I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'm here to entertain you. I am not a musician that hides in the studio all day and night creating a masterpiece. I'm in your face, entertaining you, making you laugh, bouncing my boobs whatever, to make people laugh and have a good day. I don't take myself terribly seriously, although I am serious, but I'm a lot of things. And you know, it's funny, I was thinking about the video and how people like to comment and say, you know, sometimes great things and oftentimes not great things. And they talk about all the plastic surgery I've had and I look like a housewife on Beverly Hills or whatever. And it's like, whatever. It's say whatever you want. I love who I am. I'm here to entertain myself and you, but myself first. And if you like me, you like me. And if you don't, you don't. But I'll tell you, if we were to sit down and have a beer together or a cup of coffee, we'd be friends.
NI ROCKS - You certainly have the right attitude. It's the best kind of attitude. There are so many negative people. You just have to ignore those people. I like your attitude, I have to say.
LORRAINE - I mean, I ignore the most of it, but sometimes it's laughable. Sometimes it's like, wow, really? Or, they call me granny or like a G-I-L-F, and I mean, first of all, I don't have kids, so I can't be a grandmother, but I get what you're saying. But I guess, sometimes people think that we're supposed to have an expiration date. And like I said in the beginning, like I'm here forever. Like I'm not going to stop. And I don't know. Just get used to it. (Laughs) You should be used to it by now. 35 years. I'm still here. So get over it.
NI ROCKS – I thought we’d finish with a couple of classic Femme Fatale tracks – but I wasn't sure which ones I'd pick. So which tracks would you pick if you were to play one or two Femme Fatale tracks, either from the first album or even the follow up one?
LORRAINE - I'd say most people know the singles, right? So I would say, I think “If” is a great song. Lyrically, it's not that challenging, but I think it's a great song and I think the vocal is great and it's heavy. “Touch and Go”, I think is a great song that I wrote with David. Can't remember his last name at the moment. He co-wrote the Friends theme song, you know, that show Friends. I'll be here for you. He co-wrote that song. I want to say Danny. I just can't remember his name. So that's a great track. “Cradle's Rockin'”, “Fortune & Fame” that you mentioned earlier, which actually I didn't write. That was written solely by Mazzi Rawd, aka Cliff, who wrote it about me. It's kind of a diss if you really look at the lyric. It's really a diss for me. So that's some insight there. And then “Back in Your Arms Again”. Great, great song. So I don't know, you choose.
NI ROCKS – I'll pick something. I'll pick them. I'll surprise you. I'll pick a couple. Not the usual ones. I'll pick something different. Thanks so much for taking the time to talk to me. And I’m really looking forward to seeing you in Belfast in September.
LORRAINE - I can't wait, Nigel, thank you so much for having me. I can't wait to meet you in person, give you a hug, throw back a beer or a shot of espresso, whatever it's gonna be. But thank you so much to everybody and thank you for having this interview and for digging what I do. Long live rock and roll.